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A Senior Republican Senator Admonishes Trump: ‘America Is an Idea, Not a Race’

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Durbin: Trump Said Vile Things Repeatedly

After President Trump vaguely denied using objectionable language to describe African and Caribbean nations, Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, relayed his account of the events.

As Senator Graham made his presentation, the president interrupted him several times with questions, and in the course of his comments, said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist. I cannot believe that in the history of the White House and that Oval Office, any president has ever spoken the words I personally heard our president speak yesterday. To no surprise, the president started tweeting this morning, denying that he used those words. It is not true. He said these hate-filled things, and he said them repeatedly.

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After President Trump vaguely denied using objectionable language to describe African and Caribbean nations, Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, relayed his account of the events.CreditCredit...Erin Schaff for The New York Times

WASHINGTON — It was just after President Trump had finished railing in the Oval Office against African immigrants he said came from “shithole countries” when a senior Republican senator, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who was there to negotiate a deal on immigration, spoke up.

“America is an idea, not a race,” Mr. Graham said, according to three people familiar with the exchange on Thursday. Diversity was a strength, he said, not a weakness. And by the way, the senator added, he himself was a descendant of immigrants who came to the United States from “shithole countries with no skills.”

Mr. Trump’s racially charged comments in front of more than half a dozen lawmakers, which also extended to immigrants from Haiti — followed by a day in which members of Congress denounced the president, defended him or stayed silent — now threaten what had been an emerging agreement to protect undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children.

Several people with knowledge of the conversation said the president had also demanded to know whether Haitian immigrants could be left out of any deal. The White House has not disputed the account of the exchange.

The collapse of negotiations on an immigration deal would raise the risk of a government shutdown next week, given that many Democrats have said such an agreement must be included in any measure to continue funding the government past a Jan. 19 deadline.

To try to steer the political narrative, the president took to Twitter on Friday with a vague account of the meeting, saying his remarks at the meeting were “tough, but this was not the language used.”

But Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, who also attended the meeting on immigration, told reporters on Friday that the president had used the expletive several times, and had said “things which were hate-filled, vile and racist.”

“I cannot believe that, in the history of the White House in that Oval Office, any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday,” Mr. Durbin said.

Senator Tim Scott, Republican of South Carolina, told The Post and Courier of Charleston that Mr. Graham had related Mr. Trump’s remarks to him after the meeting, and he called news reports about them “basically accurate” based on that account.

According to three people briefed about the meeting, it featured a dramatic moment between the president and Mr. Graham, who referred to Mr. Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign as a “race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot,” but who has recently grown close to the president and has advised him on immigration policy.

After Mr. Trump disparaged African nations in foul terms, they said, Mr. Graham answered with an impassioned defense of immigrants and immigration as essential to the American ideals of diversity and inclusion.

Mr. Graham has not responded to repeated requests for comment on the president’s remarks or his own. But on Friday, he released a statement that appeared to confirm the tenor of both.

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President Trump during a meeting in the Roosevelt Room of the White House on Thursday.Credit...Tom Brenner/The New York Times

“Following comments by the president, I said my piece directly to him yesterday,” Mr. Graham said. “The president and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel. I’ve always believed that America is an idea, not defined by its people but by its ideals.”

In Twitter posts on Friday, Mr. Trump charged that Democrats had fabricated parts of the exchange even as he defended the sentiment that prompted them.

Mr. Trump said he “never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country,” and denied that he had asked to remove them from the immigration proposal, adding: “Made up by Dems.”

In a joint statement released on Friday, two Republican senators who also attended the session, Tom Cotton of Arkansas and David Perdue of Georgia, charged that Democrats were acting dishonorably, claiming that they could not remember whether Mr. Trump used the words attributed to him.

“President Trump brought everyone to the table this week and listened to both sides, but regrettably, it seems that not everyone is committed to negotiating in good faith,” the senators said. “In regards to Senator Durbin’s accusation, we do not recall the president saying these comments specifically, but what he did call out was the imbalance in our current immigration system, which does not protect American workers and our national interest.”

Also present at the meeting were the House majority leader, Representative Kevin McCarthy, Republican of California; Representative Robert W. Goodlatte, Republican of Virginia and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee; and Representative Mario Diaz-Balart, Republican of Florida.

Some Republicans condemned the president’s remarks, as Democrats announced plans to introduce a resolution next week to formally censure him for them.

At an event in Wisconsin on Friday, Speaker Paul D. Ryan described Mr. Trump’s comments as “very unfortunate” and “unhelpful.” Mr. Ryan went on to recall how his own relatives immigrated to the United States from Ireland.

Senator Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri, suggested the president’s inability to refrain from incendiary statements was detracting from his agenda.

“It’s an unacceptable view of the world, and it’s an unacceptable thing to say,” Mr. Blunt told KMBZ, a radio station in the Kansas City area. “You would expect the president to lead in determining how you filter your thoughts, rather than to continue to say things that take a lot away from what’s actually getting done.”

Two high-ranking Democrats — Representative Cedric L. Richmond of Louisiana, the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, and Representative Jerrold L. Nadler of New York, a senior member of the Judiciary Committee — said they would call on Republican leaders to bring up a resolution reprimanding the president for “racist statements.”

“We have to show the world that this president does not represent the real feelings of most of the American people, which is part of the reason why he lost the popular vote,” they said in a joint statement. “Congress must speak with one voice in condemning these offensive and anti-American remarks. There is no excuse for it.”

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Racist or Not? How TV News Reacted to Trump’s Comment

After President Trump used vulgar language about immigrants, TV news grappled with a question: Were his comments racist?

“The president of the United States is racist.” “President quoted here: ‘Why are we having all these people from [explitive] countries.’” “Bleep-hole countries.” “Blank countries.” “Using an expletive.” “S-hole countries.” “Vulgar language.” “Expletive countries.” “Not racial, not racially charged — racist.” “ABC News policy is not to repeat the profanity, which of course Trump critics have called racist and un-American.” “President Trump said something that almost every single person in America actually agrees with. An awful lot of immigrants come to this country from other places that aren’t very nice.” “His supporters made excuses, continue to make excuses for him.” “This is who Trump is. He doesn’t care. He shoots from the hip. And if he offends some people, fine.” “I can hear them now telling me, ‘Oh, Don, Donald didn’t mean that. Donald isn’t a racist’ Or just people who don’t know him ‘I don’t think — I think it is taken out of context. I’m not sure.’ How many examples do you need of this?” “Is it racist?” “Yeah, Yeah. I mean, how can you take it any other way? And when I say that, I don’t say that lightly.” “So let’s be clear. A white honky from Norway can come here. But a black dude from Haiti can’t. What does that tell you in an America that in one generation called you a [explitive]?” “I know him well. And I like him and admire him. But this is a new low. The language, the racial implications are reprehensible and he deserves the criticism he’s going to get.” “One of the things that we can now factor into the balance of harm to this country that is caused by having an openly racist president. I don’t say that lightly.”

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After President Trump used vulgar language about immigrants, TV news grappled with a question: Were his comments racist?

The bipartisan backlash to the president’s comments intensified on Friday as Mr. Trump signed a proclamation at the White House for Martin Luther King Jr. Day, ignoring a question from a reporter about whether he is a racist.

The current debate about Mr. Trump’s anti-immigrant talk unfolded one week before funding for the government is set to be exhausted without action from Congress, where Democrats have pressed to include an immigration plan to preserve protections for roughly 800,000 undocumented immigrants that Mr. Trump has moved to rescind. Under Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, a program created by President Barack Obama that is commonly known as DACA, they have obtained temporary, renewable work permits. Mr. Trump announced in September he was ending the program, setting a six-month clock before the first permits would begin expiring and calling on Congress to enact legislation to create a permanent solution in the meantime.

A federal judge in San Francisco this week issued a nationwide injunction, putting that action on hold and ordering the Trump administration to continue the program pending a legal challenge.

While lawmakers had been closing in on a bipartisan deal on the matter and Mr. Durbin and Mr. Graham had been hopeful that Mr. Trump was on the brink of endorsing it, the furor surrounding his remarks appeared to deepen the divisions surrounding any such plan, prompting the president to discount the chances of an agreement.

Conceding only that his language was “tough,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter, “What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made - a big setback for DACA!”

The president’s comments on Thursday came during a session in which senators were describing a plan to end the diversity visa lottery and allocate some of the visas instead to vulnerable populations from places including El Salvador, Honduras and Haiti that have had Temporary Protected Status in the United States. The measure under discussion would also provide legal status for DACA recipients and work permits for their parents, bar the children from sponsoring their parents for citizenship, and include $2.5 billion in border security funding.

Mr. Trump had responded approvingly to the proposal after hearing Mr. Graham and Mr. Durbin describe it over the phone on Thursday morning, according to people familiar with the conversations, but the pair arrived at the White House to brief the president about it not long after to find several Republicans they were not expecting sitting in on the session. Attendees were startled by the tone Mr. Trump took during the meeting, and by Friday morning, Mr. Trump was listing his objections to the measure on Twitter and working preemptively to shift blame if the dispute led to a government shutdown.

“USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime countries which are doing badly,” Mr. Trump said of the immigration plan. “The Dems will threaten ‘shutdown,’ but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most.”

A correction was made on 
Jan. 13, 2018

A headline with an earlier version of this article misquoted Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. He said: “America is an idea, not a race,” not “American is an idea, not a race.” In addition, the article contained an incorrect middle initial for a New York congressman. He’s Representative Jerrold L. Nadler, not Jerrold B.

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Eileen Sullivan, Thomas Kaplan and Emily Baumgaertner contributed reporting.

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