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Those Guys Have All the Fun: Inside the World of ESPN Paperback – December 1, 2011

4.2 out of 5 stars 774 ratings

In the exclusive behind the scenes look, sports fans can unlock the fascinating history of the channel that changed the way people watch and interact with their favorite teams.



It began, in 1979, as a mad idea of starting a cable channel to televise local sporting events throughout the state of Connecticut. Today, ESPN is arguably the most successful network in modern television history, spanning eight channels in the Unites States and around the world. But the inside story of its rise has never been fully told-until now.

Drawing upon over 500 interviews with the greatest names in ESPN's history and an All-Star collection of some of the world's finest athletes, bestselling authors James Miller and Tom Shales take us behind the cameras. Now, in their own words, the men and women who made ESPN great reveal the secrets behind its success-as well as the many scandals, rivalries, off-screen battles and triumphs that have accompanied that ascent. From the unknown producers and business visionaries to the most famous faces on television, it's all here.
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About the Author

James Andrew Miller is the author of Running in Place: Inside the Senate and Live from New York. He has also written for the New York Times, Life, the Washington Post and Newsweek. His various positions in television include Senior Executive Producer of "Anderson Cooper 360" and Executive VP of Original Programming at USA Network. He lives in Bucks County, PA.

Tom Shales won his Pultizer Prize for television criticism in the
Washington Post. He is the author of On the Air!, Legends, and Live from New York, and has written for publications such as Esquire, Playboy, Life, and Interview, among others. He lives in McLean, Virgina.

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Back Bay Books
  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ December 1, 2011
  • Edition ‏ : ‎ Reprint
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Print length ‏ : ‎ 832 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 031604301X
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0316043014
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 1.85 pounds
  • Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 6.2 x 1.75 x 9.35 inches
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Customers find the book a great read for true sports fans, providing a detailed history of ESPN with interesting stories and insights. The book offers a formidable look inside the world of ESPN and features amazing personalities behind the network. While some customers find it super funny, others say it's mostly uninteresting, and customers disagree on the pacing, with some describing it as quick while others find it dragging on. The book's length receives mixed reactions, with several customers noting it's very long.

116 customers mention "Readability"98 positive18 negative

Customers find the book well written and engaging, particularly noting it provides valuable insights for sports fans.

"...lending his name to the project--THOSE GUYS HAVE ALL THE FUN is an engaging, if overly long, look at what has made ESPN the media and cultural..." Read more

"...itself to a dynamic content base that, admittedly, makes for an exciting read as quotes from opposing sides of an argument, event, process or policy..." Read more

"...Though the book covers a massive amount of ground it is an easy read that is difficult to put down -- both because of the impact of ESPN and because..." Read more

"...A fine summer vacation read to get your mind off the office for a week or a great gift for someone interested in the business aspect of sports...." Read more

90 customers mention "Storyline"77 positive13 negative

Customers appreciate the storyline of the book, which provides detailed insights into ESPN's history through interesting stories and interviews.

"...Smart, quick and insufferable, Olbermann's five years provide material enough for a separate volume...." Read more

"...James Andrew Miller and Tom Shales have put together an expansive collection of content for <em>..." Read more

"...This is a massive undertaking that required interviews with hundreds of people who have worked with or for the company during this time as well as..." Read more

"...I really appreciated this because there is no need to interpret things ... we "hear" people like Chris Berman, Tony Kornheiser and Linda Cohn..." Read more

20 customers mention "Look"20 positive0 negative

Customers appreciate the book's look inside ESPN, with one customer noting it provides a detailed account of the network's creation, while another mentions it serves as a nice complement to ESPN videos.

"...However, as the title promises it is certainly a formidable look inside the world of ESPN and in typical, <em>..." Read more

"...This brings a very intriguing personal element to the book that is constantly compelling...." Read more

"...While ESPN is absolutely an icon and still may be king of all sports media, other networks have siphoned the secret mojo from ESPN's tank and offer..." Read more

"...cons, they're some of the most talented, hard working, driven, creative people you'll ever read about, and their stories made me reflect on my own..." Read more

13 customers mention "Personality"10 positive3 negative

Customers appreciate the book's portrayal of ESPN personalities, describing them as amazing and electrifying, with one customer noting the inclusion of interviews with recognizable figures and celebrities.

"...I also liked the writing style. Interweaving interviews with recognizable figures and celebrities along with the thoughts of faceless executives..." Read more

"...another, especially in the early days -- are some of the most electrifying personalities I've ever read about...." Read more

"...some of the controversies, business strategies, and sports personalities associated with ESPN...." Read more

"...In fact, many of the personalities come across as rather smug and it was easy to assume they actually believe their careers reporting on superstar..." Read more

36 customers mention "Humor"18 positive18 negative

Customers have mixed opinions about the humor in the book, with some finding it super funny and full of good stories, while others find it mostly uninteresting.

"...THOSE GUYS HAVE ALL THE FUN is a mildly interesting story (there are definitely some highlights), but I was disappointed in that it didn't excite..." Read more

"...yesterday and I must say 748 pages later I was completely disappointed in the end product...." Read more

"...This book manages to tell that story in an entertaining and comprehensive manner. I also liked the writing style...." Read more

"...This stunk. The 'authors' previously put together a terrific book about the history of Saturday Night Live that is a book I recommend to anyone...." Read more

14 customers mention "Narrative"6 positive8 negative

Customers have mixed reactions to the narrative structure of the book.

"...is that a book about a sports network provides so few anecdotes about specific moments in sports or from sports personalities...." Read more

"...Every interviewee's comments on every subject are woven together masterfully...." Read more

"...And the ways that the different stories are connected doesn't completely work as a whole. There is no clear division of subjects...." Read more

"...commentary from the stars and writers and producers that flowed seamlessly together and formed a well-woven tapestry of SNL's history...." Read more

11 customers mention "Pacing"5 positive6 negative

Customers have mixed opinions about the pacing of the book, with some finding it very quick while others describe it as sometimes dragging on and somewhat disjointed.

"...It dragged on & on and read, well, poorly in my opinion...." Read more

"...It's format and gossip quality makes for a very quick and easy read and it helps to have seen the majority of the individuals quoted in the book...." Read more

"A little disjointed and some of the stories repeat (but some of that is for some of the interspersing interviews) but the book is easy to read in..." Read more

"...It's written in conversational form and very easy to follow along with the story." Read more

20 customers mention "Length"3 positive17 negative

Customers find the book very long, with multiple reviews noting it has two hundred pages too many.

"...The book is not without flaws, chief among them being length and lack of desirable editorial organization...." Read more

"...It's too long, but it's still an absorbing read. I was also inspired by the work ethic and commitment of the people who made ESPN tick...." Read more

"...job of also weaving it into historical context - be prepared for very long chapters, with many run-on transitions that have little indication of..." Read more

"...Like many people have said, it's long and does not necessarily follow a chronological order. However, I enjoyed every bit of it...." Read more

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  • Reviewed in the United States on May 29, 2011
    Format: HardcoverVerified Purchase
    James Andrew Miller's--its obvious from the Introduction to the Acknowledgments to the writing itself that the sports-indifferent Tom Shales main contribution was lending his name to the project--THOSE GUYS HAVE ALL THE FUN is an engaging, if overly long, look at what has made ESPN the media and cultural phenomena that it is. Using an oral history format, the narrative runs from ESPN's humble beginnings to its current status of world domination. According to Miller, there were nine steps in ESPN's history that fell perfectly for the company not only to survive, but to rise to the top of its field.

    1) Original founders Bill and Scott Rasmussen's decision to buy a transpounder on RCA SATCOM I in 1978.
    2) Getty Oil's investment of $15 million in May of 1979.
    3) Creating a dual revenue stream in March 1983.
    4) Coverage of the America's Cup Challenge in 1987.
    5) Getting TV rights to NFL games in 1987.
    6) The $400 million, 4-year MLB deal in 1989.
    7) The mid-90s generated "THIS IS SPORTSCENTER" advertizing campaign.
    8) The acquisition of a full season of NFL games in 1998.
    9) The documentary series SPORTSCENTURY.

    The main players behind the scenes receive as much attention as the talent on screen. The Rasmussens have the idea, and negotiate an incredibly unlikely start, but are almost immediately kicked out the door by Stu Evey, the moneyman from Getty, and Chet Simmons, the legendary NBC producer. By the mid-1980s, Evey and Simmons were replaced by Bill Grimes and Steve Bornstein. By the 2000s, the respected and congenial George Bodenheimer was teamed with talented, but utterly brash Mark Shapiro. What didn't change, however, was Bristol, the little Connecticut village that is as much a character as any. To say that the talent didn't like living in Bristol would be an understatement. Better to work all day than to have an off day in Bristol.

    Miller, however, realizes that the best copy is always the talent. The main groupings are the professionals (Bob Ley, Robin Roberts, Charlie Steiner, Dan Patrick), the performers (Chris Berman, Craig Kilborn, Stephen A. Smith) and the out-of-control but immensely talented (Keith Olbermann). Smart, quick and insufferable, Olbermann's five years provide material enough for a separate volume. Miller writes, "Have Keith Theodore Olbermann spend a few seasons working at your TV network and see how you feel. Sort of like Kansas after a twister." On a level below Olbermann in talent (in Miller's eyes), but on the same level of being a whinny pain in-the-you-know-what is Bill Simmons.

    Those whom Miller exposes as being less than what they appear are Mike Tirico, Linda Cohn and Chris Berman. Tirico, rightly or wrongly, refused to give Tony Kornheiser any love in the MNF booth. Cohn's self-absorption tops Olbermann's. Berman is shown to be incapable of not being linked to the NFL, and also gave a cold shoulder to Kornheiser.

    Those whom Miller loves are Kirk Herbstreit and College GameDay ("a show prized as if it were the Golden Fleece and Hope Diamond put together"), Robin Roberts ("an unmistakeable aura of authority, a true pro's unflappability"), and Michelle Beadle ("humble but fearless standout").

    Miller's previous connections with WASHINGTON POST alum such as Kornheiser and John Walsh lead to very positive portrayals of their roles. The one glaring editing mistake of the book (apart from spelling Jim Nantz's name Jim Nance), however, is connected with a virtual repeat of the quotes on pages 607-608 and 676-677 dealing with Kornheiser's 3-year run on MNF. It is apparent that Miller takes the same Tirico clip and edits it two ways, and also uses the same John Skipper piece with slightly different editing. For such a professional job throughout, seeing the repetition stuck out like a sore thumb.

    Surprisingly, some of the more profound statements are found from Rick Reilly, who was beaten to a pulp in Malcolm MacCambridge's history of SI. Reilly points out that ESPN.COM exponentially spreads his column in a way that SI never could. He also recognizes the difference between those who learned the trade with fences (a 800 word column limit) versus those who learned on the internet (Simmons) without fences and battle to retain every word.

    Dan Patrick is also surprising. Given the light-heartedness of his radio show, he doesn't come off as a family man, but that is the main reason he left ESPN. He wanted more time with his family, sometime that he had abandoned under the regime of Mark Shapiro. When ESPN didn't relent from their demands, he came to the conclusion that ESPN cared mainly about the profit, and not the talent.

    And, that is the thread that runs through the story of ESPN as a whole. Business comes first. It comes first over the content. It comes first over the talent. It comes first over family. With that paradigm in place, the dream goal of the 1980s was realized in the 2000s--making ESPN a way of life. Welcome to the Mothership.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on August 13, 2011
    Format: HardcoverVerified Purchase
    The duo of James Andrew Miller and Tom Shales have put together an expansive collection of content for <em>Those Guys Have All the Fun: Inside the World of ESPN.</em> Weighing in at a full-bodied 748 pages, the book is a text that seems a daunting obstacle, both as a reader and as proper work for the authors themselves.

    The narrative of the book is told through two main elements: First, Miller and Shales have organized transcribed interviews with various former and current ESPN employees, relevant industry figures and even the creators of the network, the Rasumussen family. Miller and Shales then add their own writing in order to contextualize, fill in the blanks or segway between segments of history or conversation.

    Stylistically, the book is an interesting read. The casual reader may find it odd at times to read italics -- in which Miller and Shales' own narrative is printed -- for more than a few pages at a time. If there was a qualm with overall content, it would that as editors, Miller and Shales often make the decision to contextualize an event or trial in ESPN history <em>after</em> gathering quotes from several interviewees instead of before. Several times along the 748 page journey I was left wanting for that editorial change as I was not privy to prior or intimated knowledge of the item, event or problem the interviewed personalities were referencing. Throughout the book I was left wanting Miller and Shales to have set the table with a brief summary of an event rather than doing so at the end.

    That being said, the quality of content delivered through first-person accounts is both sizable and interesting in its own regard. For the most part, the authors allow interested parties and their quotes to stand alone, free of editorial judgment of the overarching theme of a particular event or happening. This lends itself to a dynamic content base that, admittedly, makes for an exciting read as quotes from opposing sides of an argument, event, process or policy change to sit in juxtaposition to one another.

    Rather than sifting through an author's interpretation or bias through a straight narrative work, by placing direct quotes from interviewed parties Miller and Shales allow for the reader to see direct opinions from corporate executives, journalists and competitors on any given subject. The reader must sift through the obvious and sometimes laughably stark differences in opinion in everything from corporate identity all the way down to the actions of low-ranking Production Assistants.

    Chronologically, the book moves in expected fashion. For the casual, younger fan of ESPN it may feel as if it lingers on the pre-dominance period of the first decade of existence, not lending much interest unless particularly enthralled with the happenings of funding a start-up cable network in the early 1980's. However, for anyone interested in ESPN as a brand, the meat of the book does not disappoint.

    It would be a myth to say that <em>Those Guys Have All the Fun</em> is somehow a tale of ESPN's meteoric rise during the last fifteen years, launching off the shoulders of Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann as the main characters. Certainly, much of the hype before the release of this book was about the "reveal" of this era as the most interesting period in ESPN history. Although the Patrick/Obermann era gains some traction in the book there isn't much to the argument that it is the focus, or even the most compelling narrative thread.

    <em>Those Guys Have All the Fun</em> is much more expansive than that and like the company it covers, is much larger than just a handful of people. The book is not without flaws, chief among them being length and lack of desirable editorial organization. However, as the title promises it is certainly a formidable look inside the world of ESPN and in typical, <em>SportsCenter</em>-esque irony, lends itself to being the best available option to consume desired content on a particular subject. Not unlike ESPN itself, the book is worth the price of viewership.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on October 16, 2012
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    The authors set out to tell a story of the 30 year history of ESPN. This is a massive undertaking that required interviews with hundreds of people who have worked with or for the company during this time as well as outsiders and competitors. It's amazing they were able to fit as much as they did within the nearly 800 page book. If there's an ESPN event that you want to know more about there is no doubt this book will discuss it. Moreover, the book reveals events and details that I was completely ignorant of.

    That's not to say they are able to give the same amount of detail to every story, of course. There are some stories that are covered in less detail than I would have liked (such as Dan Patrick's departure) but it would be impossible to tell every story in sufficient detail in one volume.

    The best part of all, though, is the way they tell the story. Rather than compiling the data and re-telling the story in their own words they let the interviewees tell the story. You'll read a few paragraphs from Keith Olbermann about a specific time at ESPN, followed by a few paragraphs from one of his colleagues, and then a page from his boss.This brings a very intriguing personal element to the book that is constantly compelling.

    Every interviewee's comments on every subject are woven together masterfully. Though the book covers a massive amount of ground it is an easy read that is difficult to put down -- both because of the impact of ESPN and because of the humanness of each storyteller herein.

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  • Akshay
    5.0 out of 5 stars Great retrospective on the key decisions and problems faced by ...
    Reviewed in Canada on October 29, 2017
    Format: PaperbackVerified Purchase
    Great retrospective on the key decisions and problems faced by ESPN over the years. The writers had unprecendented access and candor from their interviewees, which led to some great insight as to how ESPN has lasted and innovated for so long. Appropriate touches of narration make this a fun read.
  • Pinot
    5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars
    Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 25, 2015
    Good look behind my favourite show and network.
  • Russell Holmes
    4.0 out of 5 stars For Sports Nerds
    Reviewed in Canada on June 10, 2014
    Format: KindleVerified Purchase
    A little long, but I found the origin of ESPN very interesting. You've probably got to be a little nerdy and a sports fan. A lot of ESPN politics - some fascinating, but some boring. Also, it confirmed my suspicion that poker replace hockey during the hockey lock-out because it's so cheap to produce! Bring back hockey!
  • Patrick Lefebvre
    5.0 out of 5 stars Great read
    Reviewed in Canada on November 22, 2019
    Format: PaperbackVerified Purchase
    Piece of tv history
  • Mississauga shopper
    1.0 out of 5 stars tattletales and gossip
    Reviewed in Canada on February 2, 2022
    Format: KindleVerified Purchase
    I started reading this book to get a history of the place. And at first, that's what I got. But, then it dissolved to a tattletale and gossip piece.

    It was there that I lost interest, and now it sits in my not finished Kindle collection.

    Very disappointed.